She said "I can't love a wayward man!"

EDIT: WARNING ABOUT DANGEROUS FILES
Avoid listening to any files with the name of a certain Disney movie about a deer (colloquially referred to as Disney Deer files, or DD files). They are designed to create an alter with that name in whoever listens to them, who will slowly take them over. The files market themselves as just a fantasy, but they are designed enough in a way where that fantasy becomes reality, and if you're not prepared for that or okay with it, it can actually do genuine psychological harm to you. Plus, the triggers are extremely common and open, with no safeties attached to them whatsoever.

Twilight's List of Hypno-Predators and Hypno-Abusers

The following is a list of all people I know to be predators, abusers, or just general assholes, as well as some known victims/recruiters. Hopefully this will be helpful to some people.

What is a predator? The definition varies, but basically it's someone who uses hypnosis irresponsibly and recklessly, with no concern for the well-being or safety of their subjects.

Predators offer you everything in the world - company, excitement, love, fun, anything you'd want - but it's all a ruse. They do it to keep you close - to keep you ensnared. They make you doubt yourself, they make you feel like you'd be nothing without them - they cut you off from every other option. Whatever they might seem to offer you, is toxic - it comes at too great a cost. Remember: "No amount of love is worth any amount of abuse."

Wondering how to spot a predator? Look for these signs (thanks to Psyonide for putting this on his tumblr!)
  1. They tend to come off as entirely selfless, with no concern for themselves at all.
  2. They are not likely to share any details about themselves at all. Not a one. If you find yourself realizing that you don’t actually know anything about this person aside from how they act around you, that would be a big red flag in general. They may provide superficial details and change the subject whenever it comes up. If someone appears to have interest in you, you should have just as much interest in them.
  3. What they say makes total logical sense. This can be a very tricky one. If what they say seems to make sense, but feels unintuitive, it probably is. “Oh, just ditch my friends and family? Makes sense the way you say it!” This is a logical thing to do sometimes, of course. Primarily when you’re in an abusive situation. Generally that would involve cutting off specific ties, not everyone. This is an easy enough problem to get around; just run everything the potential predator says past the most compassionate and empathic person you know. If it is logical but ultimately a betrayal of yourself or others, then that is something you need to be aware of.

That is the one thing a predator cannot control: How betrayed the people who care about you will feel.
Anyway, here is the list. Also, take a look at another list here https://queerhypnosis.tumblr.com/post/158952447672/current-archive-of-blacklisted-people-who-are

1. EvilPsychiatrist (a.k.a. Petruccio, NeuralNet, brainlessbecki, MindFogger, Decognition, MistyGwen, BimboVirus)
Just an asshole who's not even worth bothering with. Basically a tyrant too - he bans everyone from his room (I'm not even going to mention the name) who doesn't agree with him. No skill as a hypnotist either. Why people actually let him control them, I have no idea. Got banned from the server for making murder threats to people in PM. What he actually does is conditioning: his thing has always been to condition behaviours and feelings with physical actions by taking over common, overlooked physical behaviours, and conditioning thoughts or feelings to them is how he controls people. It also means that his stuff is not hypnosis, so normal hypnosis protection does not work, and it does not stop once the session is over. He is very much a fan of Pavlovian-style trigger response conditioning, and also can be an expert at NLP when he wants to be. He is a terrible hypnotist, but a brilliant and dangerous conditioner, so best avoided. Though he isn't on IRC anymore, he is still active on tumblr as neuralnetsandprettypatterns, still doing the same stuff.
Tl;dr Why is he dangerous? Conditioning. His files work by linking certain feelings/thoughts to incredibly common behaviours (examples include: looking at a clock, noticing a part of your body, or blinking). This means that it's very hard to reverse the effects once you've listened to the file, and the files themselves are designed to be "addictive" (giving you a desire to listen to them again and again).

Has been constantly harassing TheSecretSubject, another well-known hypnotist, for about two years (as of this time of writing), including publicly smearing her, shaming her, sending his minions to flood her Tumblr with abuse and hateful comments and to her own server to spy on her, getting her banned from erotic hypnosis servers and attempting to get her banned from public hypnosis conventions, and just generally trying to ruin her reputation. Why? Because she had the sheer audacity to, umm... REPLY TO a post calling him out for not putting proper content warnings on his files (a practice he is openly against) and REBLOG a post which happened to contain his real FIRST name (and only his FIRST name, which is a very common first name, to boot) because that apparently counts as "doxxing" and "revealing sensitive private information". Note that the people who actually wrote those posts have not been attacked at all (though that's not to say that they should be).

2. Everything (No other names known)
Operates through brainwashing videos that make you submissive to him and also encourage you to pass them around and enslave other people.

3. Alteryourmind (a.k.a. reecep93, Master, TranceLord, Sandman, MidnightSleep, Sleeper, TheJoker)
Likes to collar people on the first trance and make them see him as their only dominant. Very pushy with suggestions and not the best hypnotist, either in skill or in morality. May or may not be banned from the server now. Also tries to create an alternate persona in his victims' minds, which is dominant to others but submissive and slutty towards himself, and which slowly takes over the victims' minds until it replaces their original personality completely. (Operative word here is "tries".) Has been banned multiple times and keeps coming back with new nicks. Has a hypnotic "depth test" which involves a suggestion that the subject has absolutely no limits and has also trained people to claim that they have known him for a long time, or met elsewhere, to mask the fact that he only just met them.

4. Mark Torres (a.k.a. mat2blue, Mistress Kim, Kim Jessup, hypno dude)
Hasn't been seen on IRC yet, but I've dealt with him in the past. Loves to hypnotise people into loving and obeying him unconditionally. Extorts money from slaves via hypnosis, occasionally tries to get them to move in with him. Has shown very little care for victims's well-being in the past, including trancing victims over the phone while they are at work or driving. Mainly copy-pastes trances, as he (like most predators) has very little skill in hypnosis himself.

5. TheScientist (Other names unknown)
Operates mainly through Yahoo! Messenger. Exact methods unknown, but created an IRC user known as brainslugged_girl (formerly lil_succubus) and has given her orders to find other hosts for him to "slug". She has been banned from the server for this reason on her own request due to feeling remorse for her actions, but being unable to resist due to her severe conditioning.. According to her, he has never visited IRC except once to reclaim her after she broke free of his control. In this context, a brainslug is an artificial construct inside the mind which creates a "slave" personality that overrides the original, or "host", personality.
http://pastebin.com/MduW1pxA

6. Neurotica (a.k.a. Neuralicious, pleasuretreasure)
Likes to prey on loneliness and make people want to be around her more. Usually operates by getting victims high/drunk so their inhibitions and reasoning are lowered. Gives people weed which secretly has cocaine in it, getting them addicted to it (and therefore her) without even knowing why. Likes to make people wild and turn them into sluts. She sends pictures of herself and likes to make people exhibitionists and get them to send her pictures of themselves as well. She's very into being wild and sexual, and tries to get others to be like that too. Is a fan of EvilPsychiatrist's work and wanted him in her room to draw people in.

7. PammyJuggs (a.k.a. jessilov01, Pammy01, Karla, Lovelia)
Spams people with pastebins that are supposed to turn you into a completely obedient bimbo cow, then begs for pictures. If you are a female, he will then try and further enslave you and get you to go to his house. He will send someone a MzDominica enslavement file to listen to, then claim MzDominica wants them to go to California and live with him.

8. Diapergoddess (a.k.a. Diaper_Goddess, Stepford_Fox, Stepford_FoxDoll)
PMs people and starts a trance instantly without saying anything, tries to make subjects incontinent (even if they don't want to be) and forget that she tried to trance them. Spreads a dangerous file, tries to bypass sub's decision by using another personality (installed in the sub by her). Pushes outside the boundaries of subs, against their wishes.

9. Jenmk7113
Umm... I think this pastebin speaks for itself.
http://pastebin.com/Ar1nLbJS

10. LadyAda (a.k.a. mohawk1, swirldisland)
Tries to push past stated limits, get email and password info, get the sub to think of her as their SO, tries to get nude pics and more. "LadyAda" pretends to be swirldisland's girlfriend, but they're actually the same (male) person using a different nick.

11. MissEleanor (a.k.a. MistressDolly{MK}, supposedly two different personas but they have similar methods anyway)
NOTE: The following is mainly a cautionary note. MissEleanor/MistressDolly, unlike the others mentioned on this page, actually does mean well and care about her subs, but her personality and other aspects (detailed below) mean that inexperienced subs should still avoid her. Those who are experienced with hypnosis and being a sub are probably fine to submit to her, but should do it with a healthy dose of patience.
Mostly she uses files, lots of binaurals. She is of the belief that binaurals and noise cover the actual suggestions, so you can't hear them but the subconscious can. She is a fan of making robots, drones and personas (i.e. multiple personalities, which are quite a dangerous thing to create with hypnosis) that are loyal only to her. She is often neglectful and tends to do little with, or have no clear direction for, subs once she has them. The main problem is her ego far exceeds her actual ability, leading her to make a problem worse, or to do what she wants, thinking she knows best and is helping. She can't see her own faults - she will never admit to wrongdoing, and will actually alter, edit, and take logs out of context to try and frame or blame anyone that stands up to her, and release personal or private information to the general public in attempts to turn people against whoever draws her ire. If she is not a predator in the true sense of the word, she is at the very least dangerous for overreaching and being neglectful and is extremely untrustworthy. She threatens and lashes out in very unstable ways, from taking legal action to outright murder threats. This vengeful and unpredictable behaviour has gotten her banned from rooms, from the JustTrance server twice, and from the Cuff-Link server, and even rooms on her current IRC server (whose name I don't know and don't wish to find out). Because of all of these factors, it isn't just subjects, but anyone around her: friends, random people, those trying to help her, anyone around her is subject to her manipulations, abuses and lashings out, from accusations of poaching, to being or making drones, or even being a paedophile, or worse. She also attempts (usually unsuccessfully) to dox people (i.e. reveal their identity, real name and location, etc.) who incur her wrath (and in fact she did that to me in the comments on this blog post, which fortunately a friend of mine pointed out to me).

Mira (No other names)
Repeatedly attempts to violate hard limits, even after being told not to. Gets subjects deep in trance before asking permission to do things, so their judgement is compromised and they are less likely to be able/willing to refuse. This may not be the same Mira as the one who goes on JustTrance occasionally.

mcontroller02
Shares pictures of underage teens in order to "corrupt" people. If you are sent a link to an image in a PM by him, DO NOT OPEN IT. In some countries (including the UK), you can get in trouble just for viewing child pornography, even if you didn't know what it was when you opened it. He claims to like to corrupt people, which basically means trying to brainwash them into getting aroused by child porn.

Karla (a.k.a. Lovelia, MasterJose)
Multiple reports of triggering people without consent, and not getting consent in general. Attempted to intentionally steal a sub from someone else. Sends people scripts which try to trance the reader into giving him personal information about themselves.

Outrageous Hypnotist (no other names known)
Operates through YouTube videos. Has a video which installs a trance trigger and hypnotises the viewer into sending him an email with their real name, gender, date of birth and contact details. The title of the video is intentionally misleading (it includes the word "safe"), tricking people into thinking that it's harmless when it's not. More information here: http://briandavidphillips.net/2012/03/04/beware-of-nonconsensual-hypnopuppeteers/

Hush (No other names known)
I'll let this testimony (from a friend of one of his victims) speak for itself. "On the very first day with that tist, he made my friend forget who she was, when she was called her name she said "Please don't call me that.. call me "nothing". She called the tist Master, she called herself his slave, she had been collared, she wouldn't talk to us, she didn't want to talk about anything he did, she refused help, any time she tried to talk about the bad things he did she couldn't, she didn't know her favorite music genre, she had this urge to go back to him all the time, I had to hypnotically take that out. All of this was implanted on the same day. Also, in the first trance, he told her to take her top off (with cam on), she said "i'm uncomfortable", he dropped her, made her comfortable with it, then asked her again, she did it."

b---ibimbobarbie (No other names known) (Name censored due to containing a common trigger)
Uploaded a series of very predatory bimbo videos to pornhub, filled with malicious suggestions - memory modification, arousal booster, forced addiction/repeated watching, changing the kind of men you like, etc.

Solamnus (No other names known)
Drops people on Skype calls without their permission. Encouraged a bulimic person to go further into their mental illness, and made them make a video for him of them vomiting into a public bathroom toilet and repeating a mantra about how important it is to be thin to be pretty.

Ano_Mal_Lee (No other names known)
Doesn't respect boundaries, tries to get the sub to tell him their secrets. Very rude and disrespectful.

Hypno-Obey (a.k.a. MasterAlpha, Trey, AlphaPupHypno, AllJustBeingRandom, AllJustBeingGay, CORE Trey, DogMeat, GoofballTrey, PuppyAwoo, Trey Claine, Trey Daniels)
Taken from a Tumblr post (proofread by me): "Everyone, please stay away from Hypno-Obey/MasterAlpha/Trey (they are all the same person). A friend of mine who has been working with him recently told him that he didn’t want to continue, and Trey’s response was to trigger him and make it hurt him to even think of leaving. Now this kid (who for his personal privacy will remain nameless - if he chooses to reply to this message, that is his choice), he is currently bawling because he doesn’t understand what happened, he doesn’t understand why thinking about leaving is hurting, he has expressed that this is what he wants, and what is healthy for him but now the very idea is hurting him. Trey is not a good person and has been told many times privately and publicly. Now many people will chastise me for speaking publicly, but I have tried in private as have others and he has not changed, and this sweet kid is crying because of Trey basically raping him. So I am not going to stay quiet any longer."
From others' testimonies, Trey has done this exact thing (i.e. hypnotise a victim so it hurts if they ever think of leaving him) to several other people too. He also almost made someone kidnap a homeless man through hypnosis/brainwashing (note that said person ended up being detained in jail for 48 hours for this and ended up hundreds of dollars in debt).
Trey also steals scripts from other hypnotists and uses them to put people under (a very common predator tactic, as the rest of this blog post will attest to).
Read more details here: https://hypno-obey.tumblr.com/post/177319069491/watch-out-for-dangeous-tists

Nimja (No other names known)
Violated consent by hypnotising a girl he went on a kinky date with, despite the fact she told him she didn't want to be hypnotised, and suggested her things which reportedly still make her angry and hurt to this day. Knowingly did sexual hypno stuff with a minor. Has also used his position as a very well-known and popular hypnotist to abuse many other people, all of whom were too afraid to come out against him because of his popularity and fear of being lynched by his many fans.
More information on methods here: https://writtenbynath.tumblr.com/post/187197010394/the-value-of-stories?is_related_post=1

Toymaker (a.k.a. BPC, BudgetPlayerCadet, TheSoundOfSubmission)
Went against subs' explicit wishes on multiple occasions, including many instances of using coercion to make them give in. A sub hoarder (i.e. one who collects great numbers of subs), so very neglectful of subs (due to having so many), even when they are in serious need of attention. When called out on his actions, plays the victim and tries to make it all about him. (He once did this with a victim who was heavily suicidal at the time.)

Inky (a.k.a. Gunthor, Gunthor the Perilous)
Attempts to covertly install triggers without consent, as well as install separate personalities that are loyal only to him and can control the subject without consent, then tries to make his subject forget about the alternate personalities' existence. He likes to claim that his "evil hypnotist" shtick is just playing pretend. Has a "pet" who claims that he erased her previous personality and gave her a new one.

About 37 Hobos (No other names known)
Installs triggers without consent, attempts to coerce/force submission (including from people who are already loyal to someone else), violates boundaries and limits, shows little if any concern for subs (including flat-out ignoring a sub who clearly needed aftercare). Will play the victim when accused.

Aesural (a.k.a. Vale)
Former owner of Notkea, a server revolving around implanting tulpas (visit www.tulpa.info if you don't know what a tulpa is) to control and brainwash people. Creating tulpas/alternate personalities/etc. with hypnosis is an incredibly dangerous thing to do, as there are a million ways it can go very wrong indeed, so anyone doing it is definitely an irresponsible person to be avoided.

Strike Thanatos (a.k.a. The Webweaver)
Attempts to mix erotic hypnosis with therapy (despite being untrained). Does hypnosis unconsensually while pretending to talk about other things. Multiple consent violations and manipulative behaviour.

Sir N. Sorcell (No other names known)
Operates mainly on Twitter. Repeatedly violates consent, knowingly steals subs from other hypnotists. Is very good at charming and manipulating people.

Cutesthypnotist (a.k.a. Freetheyuni)
Operates mainly on Twitter and Discord. Runs cults, addicts people to her, neglects her subs, grooms minors and manipulates people.

Kitsunami (No other names known)
Closely associated with Cutesthypnotist. Violates consent by attempting to make people her sub, persisting even if they say no. Will use gaslighting techniques when called out on her actions.

PlumpieBombshell (a.k.a. PB)
Operates on Discord. Will start a DM by sending you a spiral (usually a custom-made Nimja spiral, though occasionally just one from YouTube) and asking you to watch it. Does not respect consent, very creepy and pushy. Attempts to get personal information from victims while they're under, and make them completely obedient and trusting to her. As well as a predator, she's also a scammer - she will try to scam hypno commissions out of artists, even going so far as to try to brainwash them into giving her freebies, or use other tactics such as going halfsies on commissions and then just not paying her half.

Luna the Fox Lady (formerly Luna the Bunny Lady, a.k.a. @lunahypnoslut on Twitter)
Operates on Discord. Repeated consent violations and other dangerous practices, including attempting to make a sub unable to use their safeword while in trance. Catfishes by posting pictures of porn models and claiming that they're pictures of her.

There are others that have been accused, but I have no proof so I won't post their names here.

I do encourage you to avoid contact with these people as much as possible.

If you are or know anyone who is a victim of any of these people, there are deprogramming files available on www.warpmymind.com, or you can ask in #help on Just Trance or Cuff-Link.

Take care and trance safely.

Comments

  1. To whom it may concern, I am said Mz Sophie and I would like to point out a few things.
    Firstly I am under no ones control. Secondly unless you have actually talked to Me or been hypnotised by Me, how can you say what my methods are.
    I would like to personally converse with you and dispel your judgements made on myself.

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  2. "Basically it's someone who uses hypnosis irresponsibly and recklessly, with no concern for the well-being or safety of their subjects.They are often clinical psychopaths and sociopaths and [b]many do not realise at all that what they are doing is wrong.[/b]

    Psychos and socios who don't realise what they're doing is wrong are not being predators, That's being ignorant. When someone knows what they're doing is wrong and then does it anyway, that is predatory.

    Ignorance to the consequences isn't the same thing as choosing to ignore them.

    It's not the predators who you should be worried about. Predators are generally obvious and can be spotted a mile off. Rarely do they actually hide what they want to do, they play numbers. Nigerian lottery scams? They target massive numbers and bet on the stupid. Predators do the same. They go after as many people waiting for a nibble from those that want the same things they want to do to people.

    It's the people who don't know what they're doing and don't know how to fix something when it goes wrong.
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    1. The description you've given for EvilPsychatrist sounds like an advert for anyone new to hypnosis and wants that stuff. Which, funnily enough, [b]a lot of people get into erotic hypnosis looking for it.[/b] Remember, the majority of subjects in erotic hypnosis are submissives. They [b]want[/b] to be dominated, controlled, used. Then add those people that want to be abused, humiliated, brainwashed and fucked with Congratulations on advertising this to them.
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    Re:3 "Very pushy with suggestions and not the best hypnotist, either in skill or in morality."

    That's putting it severely mildly. The guy is so obvious with suggestions and hamfisted with his inductions that the only people at risk of actually being unable to resist his suggestions would be those so suggestable, that if you were to ask them to rob a bank, they wouldn't think twice about it anyway, regardless of trance.
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    [b]"Those are all the ones that I definitely know are predators"[/b]

    4. MissSoma: Not actually a predator herself (as far as I'm aware)
    8. latexponygirl (a.k.a. lpg, ComputerizedPony{ME})
    Not a predator

    So take them out of the list. Especially LatexPonyGirl considering you've just doxed them as an easy target for any aspiring predators reading this post.

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    Re:6 "as he (like most predators) has very little skill in hypnosis himself"

    If that's true why the warning list?
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    "You might think they're safe or they won't affect you, but so many of their victims thought the same before falling under their control. Even if you have safeties, remember, they can be bypassed. "

    When trying to explain dangers to newbies in a subject where suggestion is everything? Don't suggest that safeties can be broken. Belief and faith is power in hypnosis. Doubt can be exploited. Safeties can be broken if you think them to be weak.
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    Ultimately people. Use your common sense. If you think something going on in trance that you don't want? Say no. If they carry on trying to do it? Walk away.

    Make sure you trust [B]anyone[/b] before you go into trance. (Or at least, trust your own safeties)
    If you invite everyone you see on the street into your house, chances are they'll be a few vases smashed and some things go missing. So don't do the same thing with your mind. If you think something is going to screw with you. Don't do it.

    Hypnosis, while fun, is still able to cause massive psychological, behavioural, social, emotional changes. Be sure you want something first because it can and [B]DOES[/b] work.

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  3. i will not make me anonimous , so it is bethy59 or MistressDolly as the way some know me , who is Everything , i have been a for a time victim of this crazy person , wich one i just to want to kill now , how he do what he do , his first step is arousing you , placing you an orgasm trigger , and over trigger you , making you reapeating a sentence like i'll bellong to Everything , i'll do anything for Everything , and this kind of bullshit as he push you to orgasm again and again , so for the moment it seems good as your thought ? so let me explaining what he has done to me , some month ago , after some files from him , some session text , he deside to do a voice session on skype , wich one as a lench of 6 hours non stop , and when i'm awake of this one , it seems familly , friend , love , all of this dosen't mater anymore since i'm not even alert to having them , thinking Everything is all , and that i know him since i'm child , my desire for him growing up as long as the years come , without the help of both friend , having some of my logs , i will not even reconize my own mother and lil sis , so yes what is my thought about Everything , GOES TO THE HELL , its all i will say about this fucking dumb ass meow

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  4. MissEleanor : You loving so much your MissFox I let you know she is under LadyKara's control. Or Autumn Rose if you prefer. I will not say how i know it. But if you ask to Trigger has have showed him my source. He will confirm. So MissFox Is now a dangerous treat for other peoples.

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  5. MissEleanor : I have find another one for you. Named sweetwhisper using the same path of Everything of Petruccio hypno video containing subliminal message and binaural wave , suggestion of hornyness and obedience to him hding by a childish and inocent music for make the peoples into a trustfull state where they dont see what is coming.

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  6. first my accusation has been done against petruccio and only him no one else , so first you are lying , second i'm not a predator but have the most longuest text and as well you said i dont care to who i hypnotised things tottaly wrong as i always take care to my sub third the logs i has made public was conserned a predatory action , because i was baned the first time of justrance for dont having any logs of those predator , so thank you very much i'm glad to reading this meow

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  7. there is my only legual action and acusation and i has never edited any logs , so go fuck of you and your lie , it start to just upset me meow

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  8. so before speaking in bad way about me , my only recourd to the legual accusation was this , and if you think i has edited them please to ask them to control , and there you have my real name , now speak about me that way again.....meow

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  9. well it seems that there is a new predator coming to the surface and really it is the creator of this very blog because she most likely ruined the life of one of the persons that she has posted here so i hope that she is happy with her own actions so have a nice day and enjoy the info from this predator

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  10. also what you dont say as well was the fact that i am the one find out about pammyJuggs and about the fact she was jessilov01 , and hum i dont speak about the logs with Alteryourmind and funy things as i has been baned of justrance the first time for having accusing them without prouf and funy again they has been baned after i obtain those logs , and my second ban was what ? a logs against Xian trying to change computerizedPony into a drone converter wich i think you described yourself like the most important victim of predator wich was into #TheFactory a room creating by Xian intending to done a drone converter so in fact actually most of the prouf has been sending against all of them was coming from me , thank you now and bye meow

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  11. so now the responsive of those bad rumor against me MistressDolly , wich is also the reason of my ban from justrance for has showed he was a predator and doing a drone converter , _Xian_ is now every day into HiveMind and is now a OP into a coverthypnotism , but that's doesen't make a click ? you haven't the feeling to has haved wrong about me ? and that i deserve a sorryness ? no ? meow

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  12. http://pastebin.com/hFT3nn1P

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  13. http://pastebin.com/va76dqZ0 #TheOrder Interesting to know the person who made the original of this pastebin has been baned from this room for has shared the information. Some weird and realy dark stuff happen there http://pastebin.com/ghtynuAi Echo-Seven herself admit on her profile hypno fetish as Miss Ikaros having some files she dont release publically. Due to them power. Could someone tell me what kind of things are happening into this place?

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  14. Echo_Seven voiced into #Coverthypnotism bondage international a room into which predatory abuse are allowed , important to notice those people who abuse the people into this room , dont do it only into this room Echo_Seven reconised predator , use and abuse of the different way of comunication thought the network , tweeter , facebook , google+ , steam , no one is in safe confronted to her abuse , let me explain you the method used

    first step : role playing where she'll try to be cute with you , for dont say lovely , when you start to find her cute the second step begin

    step two : the biggest part of the hypnosis comunity is made of geek , so the second step is inviting you to play to different game on steam with the few member of her hive , who will try efficiently to convince you how good it is to be from the order of the butterfly

    step Three : using of simple subliminal files , you may not notice directly the effect but one of them is to hang around her hive more and more , but not only , it's also push you to spend more time with her , to talk with her

    step four : the conditioning begin , you are gonna be forced to stay more closer from the hive but more away from familly and friend , when well conditioned , she create you few drone personna about which she take the full control as well , do not trust any description given of her file , if she give you a file with a description "The file turn you into a drone" i can tell you it does a lot more than this

    open the file with an adequat program , look at every suggestion , but take care , into coverthypnotim the op , the owner and the people voiced are well knowing for be extremely dangerous , untrustworthly and manipulating

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  15. MistressDolly, after talking with all of the people in #TheOrder's channel, they are all there via free will. On top of that, they all seem pretty content with doing what they're doing. its not like they're being forced to do conditioning. They stated clearly that i had to inquire and show interest to be able to join. Most of their files are not public. They even said why, which happened to be because predators like you try to create drama over it. Yes, it is a growing community. Some people just enjoy it. The moderator, Echo_Seven seems to be pretty nice and at no time was I asked to parttake in hypnotic conditioning. Even from asking about hypnosis files, i was told i needed to go through some sort of application by talking to the modsto ensure I was mentally stable enough to join. If anything, that's more ethical than just throwing your files out there for everyone. They don't seem like predators, but more like a community making sure people have fun and don't get hurt.

    I'll have to agree with Twillight's list. You do mean well for your subs, but you do have a rather large ego that very much does lead to you neglecting your subs. To be completely honest, the way you go on and on about #TheOrder and the people who go there, it seems like you're just trying to scapegoat your way out of any blame of being a predator yourself.

    And yes, i can completely confirm that you do release personal information on everyone who says anything even slightly negative about you, even your own subs.. for everyone to see on pastebin, which has led to much drama on nearly all servers with your presense. Please try to be more careful about that in the future. Releasing private information can be very hurtful to some people. I know your intentions may not be bad in any way, but the way you go about doing this is highly predatory.

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  16. wtf twilight.....oki it is MistressDolly right now and i want to say fuck of before to spreading your shit about me , get a better info , first of you changed it while latexponygirl came to you for saying you i wasn't a predator after what ? 4 month of rumors spreading in my back ? the whole thing you made is copy pasted from Xian saying who is predator and OP in coverthypnotism , and the accusation of dox come from purplelink who also taken the control of the room #Hypno after "strangely" accusing the previously owner of the room to doxing people ........god can't you definitely stop those rumor in my back its harmfull , what are you going to say after this ? .........meow

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    1. the doxing complaints are valid as you commit all logs of everyone you talk on to pastebin. that causes issues and drama for many people.

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    2. It isn't the case at all. Most of the pastebin are a session of hypnosis , without any name in it. Some are made by a friend for Elisabeth to read them since she canot read back our saying. Second some pastebin into which we appears aren''t even from us. Before to saying this has you even typed our nickname on pastebin and talking to the different people who apears in it if the pastebin aren't from them? I'm sure you haven't for one reason. You simply has a tooth against us where those accusation are wrong. So please to doing with us the same work than you did with the other person apear here. And do a search before any accusation. Because there this whole things about us is completely wrong. Also it is Eleanor right now. But anyways. I'm just tired of those accusation you made against other innocent people. And it start to make me doubt about the whole things writing in here.

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    3. You entered in contact with everybody who is into your blog i'm sure for obtaining the both side of the story. But not even once you pmed us. Not even once you tried to find if it was true which also make me thing you aren't doing your job well onto this blog and maybe those accusation you made against over people aren't as accurate as you try make other people thinking. Did you even get one second of your prescious time for asking us a question? No you haven't. Have you even once asking yourself 'and if maybe i did a mistake?". No !!! Because you are actually too prood for reconise when you had wrong. On this last sentence. And because of those accusation against us without reason to be. I consider definitely this blog as untrustfull and doing nothing more than speading a fake rumours.

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    4. And since you aren't doing your job well. Let me doing it for you. Petruccio doesn't hunt on irc anymore but on tumbler under the nickname BimboVirus. And at the difference of you , this in an info not an intox.

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    5. Well. Since Elisabeth came in here often for see the news and who was safe and who isn't. And since you kept adding a shit about us. Since you kept making her crying adding a new fake rumor every months. I'm going to delete completely our every emotions. This way you can keep adding stuff and shit. She's not going to be hurt anymore.

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    6. Well. Since speaking a fake rumours behind the back of someones is also something predatory. Maybe you should add your own name into this list TwuilightL Since first , I never created any kinds of personas to someone else because i know how it is to sharing my body and consider it like a curse. But how would you even know this since you doesn't care to know the truth about someone and just spread your rumours like the dust in the wind. Second i never edidted any logs. This rumours came from a mistake i did in copy pasting something in two time in a room irc because copy pasting all disconect you and i didn't knew pastebin at this period. One , Just one mistake because a ligne wasn't apearing , a ligne i also spoke about in the room , why would i have spoke of this ligne in the room if it was intentionaly missing? Third i accused only the person from who i had a logs about their predatory accting and never me nor Elisabeth did anything of what you are describing into your blog about us. You made a mistake in listening a fake rumour and you has been willing to spreading them. You maybe aren't a predator in the true sens of the word like you would has said yourself , but your false accusation over someone are pushing them to be seen as a bad person. To depress , and many other things. So if you want to be seen as someone honest ? if it still has any matters to you. God stop this without even knowing the person about who you are talking.

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  17. Jessilov01 is on hypno fetish too and do use one another nickname as well again. There's the logs for proof i'm not lying.
    jennylov1
    36 minutes ago
    Saw your profile I would love to be a hucow if that possible

    bethy59
    10 minutes ago
    Are you the same person than Jessilov01 and PammyJuggs?

    jennylov1
    8 minutes ago
    Yes miss I havent tried a file lately I miss your help

    bethy59
    2 minutes ago
    Well. So its what i through and it explain what one user from here came to me for complaining that you used my file "You Will Be Mine" On them and usurping my name.

    jennylov1
    1 minute ago
    Sorry usurping?

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  18. Well , No update at all about this part of the blog. Let me telling you this Twilight. You are such a bitch who rather prefer to spread a fake rumors about other people than admiting publically that you had wrong about someone. When MissSophie explained you she weren't guilty of the accusation against her. You deleted every accusation. But because you kept adding a shit about us. You are simply unable to reconise that you are wrong. You speak of our very little skill ? https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDYAjStaSwbS3sBgyGKa00w Verify by yourself if it is a little skill. You explain yourself what is the silent subliminal without any knowledge about it and this just amusing and pathetic. On that last one a note given to this blog 6/10 Because even if mad at you for your lie about us. At the different of you i do let my persona sentiment toward someone blinding my judgement. Bye.

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  19. Thanks you very much for what you did TwilightL....By your fault, I'm simply unable to make a new friends, Everybody who type MissEleanor on google find your horrible blog post about me....I never did anything of what you described there, I'm sure you would think why don't you change your name if it is so disturbing, Because I won't act like someone guilty when I am innocent. The real bad person in here is you. I tried to contact you , I tried to speak with you, But you simply refuse any contact. If someone is guilty of anything between you and me. It is clearly you.

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    1. Please for the love of god. Grow up, and fuck off, you crazy hypocrite.

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  20. Crazy hypocrite? Seriously between the one who spend most of her time to deprogram the victim of predator and making true the fantazy of others while remaining ethical in every way and the one who write a full blog condamning, insulting, and trowing a people within the fire, I do belive you should really ask to yourself between you and me who must grow up and who is an hypocrite.

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    1. For someone who would spend 90% of their time bitching about others that are "making drones" you spend an awful lot of time trying to make your own over on YMO. "While remaining ethical in every way" Does that include all the witchhunts, blackmail, propaganda, doxxing; Even if you want to make your hypnosis safe. You yourself, are toxic.

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    2. And did you even visited YMO? Fun you are accusing me of stuff because I am one of the 15 000 members of YMO? Realy? Well you will have to a bigger list and YMO is actually safe and no predator allowed on it, But how could you know this since your anger toward me push you to trow up a shit about 15 000 people. Bravo, This is mature and you tell me to grow up? You are just a child who love to play to a video game and when her video game loose their interest, She find some fun at destroying the reputation of some innocent people, Yet being evil toward someone without reason is actually one of the definition of a sociopath like those predator you describe, fun enough you launch a real wichhunt predator wise but accuse me to do so, You trow a people within the fire without any prouf, You don't seek anything but your own well being even if that does mean walking on other feet, But you know what? You are stupid, Realy, I mean it, you are, Have you even looked at my website or file once in your life? Have you even entered in our room irc for asking to the people around what kind of person we are? Are you aware when banned from justtrance is when for the first time we had a we have had a logs Mina-squirel refused to read those and told us "Xian is more trustworthly than you are" And banned us without reading the logs after to asking to stop our accusation against the predator without those? Nope you aren't aware of anything of this, why? Because once again you are stupid.

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    3. Oh also a last thing, How do you know that I am on YMO if isn't in doxing me? Bravo. Your card catles just felt down on itself. You are fun.

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    4. "For someone who would spend 90% of their time bitching about others that are "making drones" you spend an awful lot of time trying to make your own over on YMO. "While remaining ethical in every way" Does that include all the witchhunts, blackmail, propaganda, doxxing; Even if you want to make your hypnosis safe. You yourself, are toxic." Just so you notice how you stupid you are, You just admited there that I pratice the hypnosis safely and by the way you just broken your own accusation against me, And by telling me that I am toxic, You clearly admited that it is personal anger toward me. Thanks.

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  21. Fun enough, Things you never understood between willing droning stuff which I do, and being against the unwilling droning stuff which I don't. I also never blacmailaid or doxing anybody but once again, keep adding a new accusation but you have absolutely nothing against me, In fact i begin to think that you are just a troll on the network, someone who once they dislike someone they wish to share their anger with everybody you aren't just a sociopath at this point but a real psycopath, and I wish you to find the help you need with a spycologue.

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    1. This is your problem. You want to try and decide for everyone what you think is safe and what is unsafe, and go on a crusade at anyone you think otherwise. Regardless of anyone's personal choices. You assume that because someone you don't like is trancing someone it "must" be predatory and against their will, and therefore must need to be saved.

      Any droning you do must be "Safe" Because you think you're so perfect yet anyone from someone that doesn't buy you as the perfect little princess you think you are, well they must surely be a predator, right?.

      You're still a hypocrite. You didn't spend time "Deprogramming" them. You Reprogrammed them in order to hang off your own nuts instead of the people you didn't like, to bring them into your cult of personality.

      "If you can't beat them, join them."

      The only reason you're on YMO is because nobody else was left. Judging from the fanatic level of your responses, you're still highly unstable. So I'm sure it's only a matter of time before history repeats itself.

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  22. Definitely, You are stupid, I mean it, First of, I'm on different place other than YMO and what is this story of cult, I think you completely are into your world in fact and and when out of fake accusation, you begin the assumption, And silly as you are, I'm sure you didn't listened "I haven't asked this" Which is full deprogram file, If you think that I reprogram who i deprogram, Then you are first paranoid, But second more than stupid you are dumb, Also you accuse us of doxing people? May I know how did you obtained those information about the different people apearing in your list? Fun when we think about the accusator turned in accused and the prouf befin to accumulate themselves, I honestly do think that everyone who once pissed you up appeared there predator or not, Just because you are someone with no interest for anybody else than yourself doesn't mean others aren't humans, You may look at the defintion of the word human if you doesn't really know what it does mean

    Helping other without waiting anything from them? Does that rings a bell? Nope? Well, i'm not surprise, Second if you knew us and knew how much we consider to share a body being a curse for us, You wouldn't accuse us to create a persona to others people, Do you know how it is to live permanently confused? To never know if you did slept, ate, drank, or even why you woke up sudently with a people around you who does call you by another name, Do you know how it feel to see your life passing more quickly than anybody else because your life time like your head and body are shared? And you think someone who live this everyday might be ready to do inflict such a curse to someone else? Then definitely my dear, You are stupid and you try to make yourself past for someone bright.

    The reallity is that you know nothing about us but judge us, why because you are friend of a predator who once abused us and almost killed our main Elisabeth by replacing her by a persona named Solaria, You think to know what it is to be DID, You know nothing, Did you already woke up with the fear in the stomack , a ball of stresse telling you that at every moment someone within your head might kill you?

    You role played so much that you forgot what it is to be human , You forgot what it is to wish to help other just because someone might care more to them than to themselves.

    You are a geek or nerd either, You live in your little world without knowing or meeting more people in real and for this reason, You accuse people without getting to know them, You know nothing but in this little closed mind of your, you think to own the every knowledges, Grow up child.

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  23. And since you are bad at doxing me silly one, I'm on YMO since two years and half, The account you found is just my second account because I was unable to find back my old password, Type Eleanor Program RTX-575 on it silly one, "You can't fight them so why not joining them" *Laugh louder* Don't play to the psyciatrist when once again you know absolutely nothing.

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    1. I do know how to use a spellcheck.

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    2. *Laugh louder* Attacking on my spelling, Those who does that are the one unable to says anything else, So well, Let's do your profile Twilight. It's proven by this simple list that you Dox the people over the network, It's proven that you constently do a wichhunt predator wise but also does use as so many name in the goal to abuse of the trust of those who you dox that you are untrustworthly, You do assume of things and build your accusation on assumption at the place to build them on a fact. You destroy the reputation of many people just because you doesn't get allong well with those, Not because they are a predator but because they once by accident probably even hurted your feeling, It is a predator who must be adding to this list, It is you TwilightL.

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    3. As someone trying to prove they're actually well adjusted and not a vengeful egotist who can't see their own faults. I have to hand it to you. Spending 2 years posting raging comments on a blog posts online is a sure fire way to get that point across. All you've done is further demonstrate the points listed above.

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  24. Nope, It's simply someone innocent trying to show the truth to someone so studborn that it take more than two years of raging comment indeed. If you were taken while this two years a bit of your time for doing what you should and by this, questioning the people who does know me, looking at the feedback on my different files, seeing if those are safe, Then It wouldn't have took over 2 years of raging feedback from someone innocent just trying to defend her reputation.

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    1. Anyone who gave you second chances had them returned by you repeating the same behaviours again and again. People who tried to help your reputation was met with refusals and dismissals from yourself, or worse you turning on them too.

      As the post said. "She can't see her own faults - she will never admit to wrongdoing"

      And anyone that has had to spend time seeing or dealing with your actions, can see that.

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  25. Well, First of, I don't see of who you are speaking by people giving me a second a chance and yet I see only an accusation against me which should be done against yourself, Stalking, You clearly does, Predator if building a lies at your adventage to turns your personal rage toward someone in a general rage isn't predatory in the true sens of the words, It does hurt still, The words does hurt more than the action. She can't admit her wrong doing, Clearly you once again, Two years that I tell you to get me out of your list because you don't know me, You don't know any of my subs, You don't know any of my friends or in a sentence like in thousand, You don't know anything of me. So actually most if isn't every accusation against me could fit to yourself.

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  26. Because if it is someone who clearly doesn't admit her wrong doing it is yourself. Since when does I create a persona submissive to me? That i dox or blackmail the people? You said many person tried to help me to build back my reputation? You are the only one who destroy it by your lies.

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  27. And you speak of my skill also, Of what I do with my subs? So you don't know any of my subs, You never spoke to any of them but you know everything about them? Once again that's proven your lies, You speak of my files and likes? You never asked me what I do like, You did an assumption because you saw 4 of my drone files though 73 others themed files. You speak of my skill, Did you saw any of my script? Did you listened any of my files? You speak of binaural and subliminal for my files, Yes sure, I have again something like 5 subliminal files. So once again, Please end up this drama once for all and be fair, Be honest and for once act like adult, I shouldn't have to complain so much about your action, MzSophie has been get out of your list at her first complain but because you dislike me, I'm still here to complain for defending myself against many fake accusation to which you keep adding a stuff. How long would it take before you finally appologies for your wrong doing like an adult and leave me in peace. Does leaving in peace the people who never did anything bad is so hard for you?

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  28. Not a long while ago, I was having a conversation in voidland with a people about the death pain, I am for and I will even explain why, Someone point of view was that it was horrible because many innocent people got condamned on the electric chair, My point of view was that If i was accused of a criminal acting when I am innocent, I would honestly prefer to die than being looked at by the every people I knew like if i was some sort of Monster. You have no idea of the weight of your action, For you it is just a little blog post, My dear this is internet the best way of comunication ever created though the world. Have you any idea how it feels to be looked at by other people like if you were a Monster when you never did anything for yourself but only for the others? When your only thought is "If i am alble to give a smile to someone else today, I will sleep well tonight" Have you any idea of what this little blog post of your does and did to me? Your writing about me and about many person who apears here are taken very seriously by the people who doesn't know me and who will never even try to get to know me. Do you notice this? Do you notice my name appear on a list of dangerous person? For you it is a simple blog, For me, It is a whole comunity which doesn't belive me, Which doesn't trust me and who does only think of me as one of the worst person of the network.

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    1. Fool me once. Shame on you.
      Fool me twice. Shame on me.
      Fool me three times. You're officially 'That guy'

      People forgave you, gave you chance after chance. You never stopped. You never changed. So it came to this.

      Learn to live with that rather than try and pretend you wasn't told this was coming.

      And if you wanted to talk about your actual file quality then it's mediocre at best. I never felt like mentioning it since it's not the major reason why you're toxic to be around.

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    2. So you are aware of hurting someone intentionaly and when given the luck to change it, You keep doing it? And you take the right to telling me that I am the dangerous person? And about my files, you clearly are a liar and your opinion actually isn't fair enough to be considered as honest, I saw the effect of those on other people. But yes, You admited there for the very last time that you are a dangerous person.

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    3. I wish you to find someone who will does to you what you did to me. When this day will come, I wouldn't even say that I alerted you, I wouldn't smile or even be glad. But I would still consider the charmas as equal and giving you the fair return of the boomrang.

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    4. Finally I even have a pitty for you because the people who will never find a real friends, A person like you need to lies for living and the truth will come, and It will come at a moment or another, When the truth will come, you will be only full of regrets and nobody will be here crying for you.

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    5. If the truth ever comes. I'm sure you'll be looking in the other direction, with your fingers in your ears and your eyes shut, as per usual.

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    6. Oh I do doubt about this, At the difference of you, I am someone honest, I prefer to hurt with the truth than pleasing with a lies and vice versa. So, I'm not a hypno abuser as you said it yourself, "Even if you try to make your hypnosis safe" And visibly from yourself my skill isn't dangerous either, It is just that I am toxic. Or in a word like in thousand One another accusation against me which should be about yourself. " or to do what she wants, thinking she knows best and is helping. She can't see her own faults - she will never admit to wrongdoing, and will actually alter, edit, and take logs out of context to try and frame or blame anyone that stands up to her, and release personal or private information to the general public in attempts to turn people against whoever draws her ire" In fact already this whole part could be added above your own name.

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    7. So question, Since now it have had been proven that you aren't honest at all, How many person in this list just refused to hypnotise you? Or simply refused to speak with you? Or anything else that must have pissed you up, Because I begin to believe that if you did added me there only because you find that I am a toxic person which in itself is a non sense, Toxic how? Have you been hurted by me? Does it hurt you to hear the truth about yourself and your lies? Tell me in this list, How many people are just toxic, without any skill and with a fake rumor in addition because they didn't wished to let them walk on their feet? How many people because they told you that you were wrong did seen their name appearing there and accused of the worst thing? I begin to believe nothing on this blog toward the hypnosis is actually true, I mean well, You are a role player with actually no skill, You role play a persona and by the way you get pissed up by those who have a real one, Is it an issue for you to be alone? I can swear you having many persona is more of an issue than being alone actually. Why so much rage about other people? have you been violented by someone as late and you trow and spread your rage over the innocent people because you haven't to be hurt alone? Well, Conclusion to all of this a liar never chance and even if they does hurt someone.

      Even if they know themself as a liar, They will continue because it is like breathing for them, They get used so much to it that they forgoten the difference between kindness and evilness. I think you lied so much in your life as before that you are unable to notice why it is bad to do so.

      Well my dear, You could keep adding a stuff, those people who does know me know that you are a liar, Those people who appear in it does know that you are a liar.
      You even wrote something about "How to make your apologies looking honest" When we teach to someone how to make their apologies looking honest, It only mean one thing, You have been used to fake your apologies, You caress everyone who likes you in the sense of their hair body but if it may happen that you dislike someone wthout any reason.

      The real you come to the surface, And I can tell it's ugly version of you, I wish you to find the help you need about this constant need to lies to others, I assume it must be a brain issue.
      But someday you will notice what you did to those people about who you lied, Someday you will notice the difference between honestly and lies and I hope this day you'll regret what you did, I hope in this dark heart of your remain some bit of humanity or...

      I will probably be sad for you.

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    8. Oh and a last one just to show you how bright you think to be, my hypnois file and my skill are so bad for you but you accuse me to create a persona by hypnosis submissive to me? *Laugh* Sorry but in your accusation and deffence against my feedback, It's obvious that you are a liar and if you lies about me, It is obvious that you did about other people too.

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  30. Well, We did lost our job of hypnotherapist because after a conversation about the different aspect of the hypnosis such as the erotic hypnosis and did the mistake to shown my website to a co-worker who it seems weren't having any memory and typed MissEleanor hypnosis on google and found your blog...You are officially a predator who did messed up the life of someone else, Cops? They cannot do anything since it isn't in their jurediction, Lwayer? "A hypnotherapist office works only on the reputation, if they think the reputation of one of their co-worker can mess up the one of the office, they are perfectly in right to fire the said co-worker" Thank you very much twilightLord....You did messed up one life already, Which one will be the next? How long again before that you notice the consequency of your act.

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